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sem a figura do especulador, o mercado financeiro e de futuros pára…ele é parte importante do sistema...
o negócio é que, justamente por ele ser parte importante do sistema, qdo dá merda a culpa cai só nele...
só do fato de vc comprar ações de uma empresa que ofereça um risco mais alto vc tá especulando que aqueles papéis irão valorizar e vc vai ganhar dinheiro...
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mercado financeiro é especulação . é dinheiro fazendo dinheiro . dinheiro totalmente improdutivo , mas necessário . porque fomenta a produção , gera capital a partir de capital .
esses movimentos são o sangue e as arterias do nosso sistema capitalista .
mercado de futuros é a especulação já ta no nome
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gm posts $15.5 billion loss
even excluding charges, automaker loses far more than expected as vehicle sales tumble.
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falling vehicle sales, special charges push gm to $15.5 billion loss.
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new york (cnnmoney.com) – general motors reported a huge second-quarter net loss friday of $15.5 billion, after restructuring and other charges, as the automaker s run of troubles continued.
the automaker lost $27.33 per share in the quarter, compared to a profit of $784 million, or $1.37 per share, a year earlier.
even factoring out those charges, gm posted a stunning $6.3 billion loss on operations. that works out to $11.21 per share, far above the $2.62-a-share loss projected by thomson reuters.
last year, the company earned $1.3 billion on that basis, or $2.29 per share, as it attempted to turn around years of losses.
gm (gm, fortune 500) stock fell 8% in nyse trading.
the automaker posted revenue of $37.7 billion from auto operations, down from $45.8 billion a year ago.
analysts polled by thomson reuters were expecting revenue of $44.6 billion.
we knew what was coming with these results, and we knew what we needed to do to respond and react said a gm executive on a conference call.
the lost revenue was likely due to a significant decline in vehicle sales. gm sold nearly 5% fewer vehicles this quarter than it did over the same time last year.
u.s. sales took the biggest hit, falling 21%, although foreign sales rose 7%.
in a press release, gm said its results were impacted by $9.1 billion of predominantly non-cash special items.
it named strikes, labor cutbacks, and actions to reduce vehicle output as main reasons for the loss.
as our recent product, capacity and liquidity actions clearly demonstrate, we are reacting rapidly to the challenges facing the u.s. economy and auto market, and we continue to take the aggressive steps necessary to transform our u.s. operations, gm chief executive rick wagoner said in a statement.
we have the right plan for gm, driven by great products, building strong brands, fuel-economy technology leadership and taking full advantage of global growth opportunities, he added.
gm has now lost money in four of the last five quarters.
the auto industry as a whole has struggled recently as high gas prices and a weak economy have kept customers at home.
last week, ford motor co. (f, fortune 500) reported the largest quarterly loss in its 105-year history. on thursday, standard & poor s ratings services cut its ratings for all three domestic automakers further into junk status.
gm is attempting to get back on its feet after striking key wage and healthcare deals with its labor force last fall.
but critics have said the recent steps gm has taken to right itself - which included cutting 6,100 jobs and reducing its vehicle output by 117,000 - are not bold enough. what the company really needs to do, they say, is eliminate dealerships, vehicle lines and even whole brands.
gm, long the world s largest automaker, was outsold by toyota in the first six months of this year, and experts say the japanese automaker could overtake gm in worldwide sales for all of 2008
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mais notícias sobre o assunto, inclusive sobre a ford.
atenção para este parágrafo.
we won t get back to where we were in 2006 until 2013, said george magliano, director of forecasting for north america. global insight is forecasting sales of 13.8 million units this year and only 13.4 million in 2009, compared with 16.1 million last year.
gm, ford fall sharply as outlook dims
a new report says u.s. auto sales will hit recession levels this year, threatening their survival.
by alex taylor iii, senior editor
last updated: october 9, 2008: 11:40 am et
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new york (fortune) – how bad is it going to get for automakersó worse, much worse.
investors made a shocking vote of no confidence in the future of u.s. automakers thursday. gm (gm, fortune 500) stock was down more than 14% to $5.92 a share, while ford (f, fortune 500) fell 7.5% to $2.46. that gave gm a market capitalization of $4.3 billion - chump change for this industrial behemoth - while ford stood only slightly better at $6.6 billion.
the stock selloff effectively puts these companies on death watch and it is easy to see why. a new report by global insight, the economic forecasting and consulting firm based outside boston, shows u.s. auto sales hitting recession levels this year - and then sinking lower in 2009.
we won t get back to where we were in 2006 until 2013, said george magliano, director of forecasting for north america. global insight is forecasting sales of 13.8 million units this year and only 13.4 million in 2009, compared with 16.1 million last year.
the impact of oil prices at the beginning of the year was mild compared to the squeeze from the credit crunch. as nigel griffiths, global insight s managing director of global forecasting, points out, expensive oil merely meant that wealth was being transferred to oil-producing countries like russia from oil-consuming ones like the united states. now, the credit crunch is destroying wealth and making it impossible for customers to buy.
the impact is worse than if the price of oil had been sustained at $200 a barrel, he said.
no help from foreign markets
it turns out that auto finance companies were as guilty as mortgage lenders in providing loans to subprime borrowers - and their generosity is coming back to haunt them. lenders dramatically cut standards for credit worthiness at the beginning of 2008 and now delinquency rates have been shooting up to levels not seen in 30 years.
some 18% of sales volume came from people with bad credit scores, said magliano. now the subprime buyer has been squeezed out.
there is little relief overseas. according to global insight, at least half a dozen countries in western europe experienced greater house-price appreciation over the last 10 years than did the united states. ireland led the way with a nearly 250% rise and the united kingdom was not far behind. with that kind of wealth accumulation unlikely to be repeated, sales experienced a total collapse in july and have gone into a violent downshift.
nor is asia likely to provide a safety net. sales growth in china is slowing markedly and vehicle demand in india is also ebbing. even the much publicized $3,000 nano car developed by india s tata motors is off to a slow start. plans for an assembly plant in india have been scuttled by local opposition and global insight says nano will only see a big build-up in volumes from 2010.
when will the credit crunch free up enough to allow consumers to finance again? asked griffiths. that is the several-trillion-dollar question. it is the core assumption on which all forecasts will be based and it is unforecastable.
to combat this flood of negative news, gm has adopted the sarah palin approach: bypassing the media by communicating directly with customers and investors. gm executives can now be seen in videos posted on its fast lane web site talking about the company.
in the first video, posted sept. 22, chairman and ceo rick wagoner responds to the question what s gm s future look like? by saying gm s future is actually quite bright. after ticking off progress on new models, technology and sales in developing markets, he concluded by saying, though times are challenging, we re really making sure that we keep planting the seeds for what we think should be a very exciting future for general motors.
three weeks later, you have to wonder what he d be saying today?
first published: october 9, 2008: 11:37 am et
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as coisas são tão dinamicas nesse mercado … rs .
investidores já dão a falencia da gm como favas contadas . a nova crise de credito parece que foi o golpe fatal .
resta saber se o tesouro americano vai dar aquela mãozinha pra evitar a quebradeira de gm e ford .
as ações valem hoje o que valiam em 1952 snme ...
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brincadeiras a parte, mas todos dos posts anteriores que foram otimistas em falar que comprariam as ações hoje teriam praticamente quebrado.
a gm ontem disse que iria pedir concordata, isto é, falência.
hoje ela se reinterou e não vai mais pedir.
mas sem sombra de dúvidas, os fatos indicam que ela esta muito ruim das pernas, e, em seu cenário mais otimista, ela só deve voltar a gm que era 3 anos atras em um prazo de 5 anos
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quebrado não … só teria perdido 50% do capital ...
mas agora que abriu o precdente , o fed não vai deixar barato .
de qualquer forma , um ajuste era necessário , porque não há demanda para tanta produção . a industria automobilistica (de maneira geral mesmo) vai ter que se acostumar a uma nova realidade .
e as filiais brasileiras que se preparem com a retração do crédito ...
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fodam-se maledetos american-jácas modafóckas comedores de hamburguer….
eu quero é que o mar pegue fogo pra eu comer peixe assado
²ps: quem me dera ter alguns milhões de dolares pra comprar umas ações da gm agora mesmo…..
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eu acabei de voltar dos eua. os caras tão desesperados.
tem posto de gasolina que não tem mais combustível pra vender porque a população com medo abastece o que pode e o que não pode. nas lojas de veículos, os carros mais bem vistos e valorizados fazem no mínimo 25mpg. as jacas tão sendo vendidas a preço de banana. a ford deve lançar o fiesta 2009 pra já, na terra dos mustang.
só quem tem realmente grana é que tá esbanjando, o que não é pouca gente por lá, mas o mercado americano vai mudar totalmente.
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com o preco do petroleo em queda nao vejo espaco pros combustiveis subirem, a nao ser que role inflacao no mercado americano que esta bem devagar. acho um panorama + complicado de ocorrer (mas posso estar achando errado).
no mundo de hoje o pessoal acha que pode ganhar o quanto quiser ad infinitum … ta ai, se fuderam. eu dou risada (sei que muita gente vai dancar por conta desse merdere todo), mas do jeito que as coisas caminhavam nao tinha jeito. um acha que pode ganhar $$ com coisa do outro, leia-se vendendo titulos podres
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com o preco do petroleo em queda nao vejo espaco pros combustiveis subirem, a nao ser que role inflacao no mercado americano que esta bem devagar. acho um panorama + complicado de ocorrer (mas posso estar achando errado).
no mundo de hoje o pessoal acha que pode ganhar o quanto quiser ad infinitum … ta ai, se fuderam. eu dou risada (sei que muita gente vai dancar por conta desse merdere todo), mas do jeito que as coisas caminhavam nao tinha jeito. um acha que pode ganhar $$ com coisa do outro, leia-se vendendo titulos podres
falando em titulos podres, to precisando de alguns da eletrobrás…........
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falando em titulos podres, to precisando de alguns da eletrobrás…........
que tal alguns da agrenco é estão em recuperação judicial …
pode ser o mico de 1000% da vez .
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que tal alguns da agrenco é estão em recuperação judicial …
pode ser o mico de 1000% da vez .
nao entendi direito….. manda uma mp explicando, pode ser é
abraço.
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http://economia.uol.com.br/ultnot/2008/11/…t4294u1914.jhtm
http://economia.uol.com.br/ultnot/afp/2008…lt35u64769.jhtm
http://economia.uol.com.br/ultnot/2008/11/…t4294u1902.jhtm
será questão de tempo ou vai acontecer algum milagre?
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ach mais questão de tempo pix, pq no cenário atual eles teriam de mudar completamente do que são hj em dia pra ser a gm de antes.
eles foram burros, só pensaram em fazer carros que bebem pra caramba em plena crise do petróleo, e outra, carros geralmente caros. hj em dia estão fadados a vender conrsinha 1.0 pra que os americanos parem de gastar.
