Nissan x porsche
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nissan se manifestou oficialmente sobre a alegação da porsche.
em resumo.. o carro era todo de série..e o tempo foi auditável
no final da nota oficial a nissan destroi a porsche com toda a delicadeza oriental:
devido às condições atmosféricas no nurburgring, ensaio tem parado e agora será retomada em torno de abril de 2009. nissan will be back at the nurburgring testing both the standard gt-r and upcoming additional models. nissan vai estar de volta em nurburgring o teste tanto o padrão gt-r e próximos modelos adicionais. we look forward to welcoming more members of the media to join us for these test sessions, consistent with our transparency at previous test sessions. estamos ansiosos para saudar mais membros dos órgãos de comunicação social para se juntar a nós para testar estas sessões, coerente com a nossa transparência no teste sessões anteriores. … tradução eletônica
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noucaute mesmo é essa que a nissan mandou pra cima da porsche e outras fábricas:
not so, says nissan. while a claim to the fastest production car on the nürburgring might help prospective customers froth up some money, and owners are unlikely to try verifying the claim, nissan is not interested in wasting time on one-offs, according to mizuno. for us, testing the car in standard production specification is far more relevant , says the engineer. the very tires that carried driver toshio suzuki on the 7:29 run are in the hands of sumitomo, and nissan would encourage interested parties to stfu and go look at the rolling stock. it seems nissan thinks porsche needs a little help figuring out the gt-r, to which the company will be happy to help. we are aware that several automakers have purchased the gt-r for their own testing and evaluation, nissan says in its most recent rebuttal, we would welcome the opportunity to help any auto manufacturer with understanding the full capabilities of the gt-r.
**nissan motor company ltd.
global communications
october 9, 2008
statement
nissan gt-r test procedures
in light of comments made recently in the media concerning the testing of the nissan gt-r, it is clear that there are some important facts that were not accurately represented.
background
on september 24, 2007 the nissan gt-r recorded a lap time of the nordschleife circuit at germany s nurburgring of seven minutes and 38 seconds. this lap time was completed in weather conditions that the nissan test team knew would not show the full potential of the car.
on april 17, 2008 the nissan test team was back at the nurburgring and recorded a new lap time of seven minutes and 29 seconds, several times.
for all testing at the nurburgring and other circuits such as sendai highlands in japan, the gt-r development team used production specification vehicles with production specification tires. these tests are part of the extensive performance and durability program undertaken before, during and after the commercial introduction of the gt-r.
the gt-r is a world-class supercar developed to be sold in multiple global markets. while specifications can differ across the various markets, the cars used to record both nurburgring lap times were identical to the japanese market production specification cars.
for the april 2008 test, the gt-r carried an additional 50kg of weight due to the marelli data recorder and video camera equipment. in addition, the test was witnessed by best motoring magazine from japan who reported the test in their july 2008 issue, which included a dvd program of the session.
nissan records the lap times around the nurburgring using the same methodology and measuring locations as sport auto magazine in germany. sport auto magazine provides the most consistent and objective measurement of lap times around the nurburgring, allowing accurate comparisons between different vehicles.
in both timed lap sessions at the nurburgring, chief test driver and professional racing driver, toshio suzuki was at the wheel. suzuki has been the chief test driver on the gt-r program throughout the vehicle s development.
tires
the gt-r offers two different tire choices for customers:
bridgestone potenza re070r
dunlop sp sport 600 dsst ctt
for the tests conducted at the nurburgring where the lap times of 7:38 and 7:29 were recorded, the dunlop tires were used. the tires – which are designed for high performance driving in the dry and wet - used in the tests were identical to the production specification tires available to gt-r customers.
in june, 2008 dunlop japan issued a press release announcing that their tires had been used by nissan to record the 7:29 lap time. the release can be accessed in japanese and english at:
http://www.dunlop.co.jp/newsrelease/2008/2008_039.htm
http://www3.srigroup.co.jp/cache/news_news…obj144_2008.cfm
for any media interested in seeing the actual tires used at the test (7:29 lap time), they should contact the public relations department at sumitomo rubber industries, ltd. in japan.
driving the gt-r
consistent with industry benchmarking practices, we are aware that several auto makers have purchased the gt-r for their own testing and evaluation. like all gt-r customers, we recommend that any auto maker buying a gt-r should follow the recommended run-in procedures, service schedules and maintenance to ensure the maximum performance from their car.
in addition, we offer performance driving courses for prospective and current gt-r owners to help them get the best performance from their car. we would welcome the opportunity to help any auto manufacturer with understanding the full capabilities of the gt-r.
remarks
from kazutoshi mizuno, chief vehicle engineer and chief product specialist for gt-r:
we have used circuits like the nurburgring and sendai extensively during the development of the gt-r. the fastest lap-time was never the objective but a simple parameter for us to measure the gt-r in a consistent way against other world class supercars.
testing a car with specialized parts such as unique tires or suspension has no meaning for us. the gt-r was designed from the start to be a supercar that could be driven anywhere, anytime and by anyone. for us, testing the car in standard production specification is far more relevant than creating a one-off vehicle that our customers cannot buy.
conclusion
due to the weather conditions at the nurburgring, testing has now stopped and will resume around april 2009. nissan will be back at the nurburgring testing both the standard gt-r and upcoming additional models. we look forward to welcoming more members of the media to join us for these test sessions, consistent with our transparency at previous test sessions.**
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kkkk
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efiou o dedo no * da porsche na casa dela….... uahuahua........
in addition, we offer performance driving courses for prospective and current gt-r owners to help them get the best performance from their car. we would welcome the opportunity to help any auto manufacturer with understanding the full capabilities of the gt-r.
tô doido pra ver onde isso vai acabar......... eita 3° lugarzinho polemico
ps: lembrando que 1° viper acr e 2° vette zr-1 ............jacas ruleiândo
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jacas fazendo bonito …
apesar que pra mim o corvette sempre foi uma jaca não-jaca . o estado da arte do american school .
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efiou o dedo no * da porsche na casa dela….... uahuahua........
in addition, we offer performance driving courses for prospective and current gt-r owners to help them get the best performance from their car. we would welcome the opportunity to help any auto manufacturer with understanding the full capabilities of the gt-r.
tô doido pra ver onde isso vai acabar......... eita 3° lugarzinho polemico
ps: lembrando que 1° viper acr e 2° vette zr-1 ............jacas ruleiândo
errado
já é a luta pelo sétimo lugar
1 - viper acr - 7:22.1
2 - maserati mc12 - 7:24.3
3 - pagani zonda f clubsport - 7:24.7
4 - ferrari enzo - 7:25.3
5 - chevrolet corvette c6 zr1 - 7:26.4
6 - porsche carrera gt - 7:28
**7 - nissan gt-r - 7:29
8 - porsche 911 gt2 - 7:32.02**
9 - koenigsegg cxx - 7:33.6
10 - koenigsegg ccr - 7:34.
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ah streit , isso aí é tudo manipulado …
qualquer ranking que não tenha um porsche em 1º é manipulado ...
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ah streit , isso aí é tudo manipulado …
qualquer ranking que não tenha um porsche em 1º é manipulado ...
imagine esses alemão teimoso como são tendo que engoli isso seco..
e não adianta. esse gt-r é muito barato mesmo. é de longe o mais barato desses top10 ai.
essa porr@ vai virar febre se permitir que seja facilmente preparado. plataforma muito boa pra mal-criação.
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infelizmente os top6 do ranking do inferno verde não são tão faceis de dirigir..
vai dobrar a esquina com viper acr e pare na padaria e volte pra casa.. so ai ja foram uns 5l de gasolina… e fora as borrachadas... mas não é isso q está em questão..
a questão é q a porsche tomou no * e a nissan chamou p/ briga hehehe
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ah , mas tem que ver que o pilotinho que marcou o tempo no gt2 era um bração chamado walter rohrl . pilotinho de 5ª categoria que com certeza prejudicou o 911 no comparativo .
um piloto melhorzinho , tipo aquele filho do nakajima que tá na f1 baixava esse tempo uns 5 segundos …
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repetindo: o motor do viper acr é o mesmíssimo do viper de rua….. o que não quer dizer ue não beba, mas........... eu iria na padaria com um desses sem problemas
o que quer dizer que vai uma dessas reservas do pré-sal todinha só para alimentar cada propulsor desses durante a sua vida útil …
